Darla1108
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by Darla1108 on Dec 12, 09 1:25 PM
Cptduzer wrote:Thank you Picman. It was the lack of communication all the way around that I found the most unlike BFG and I am pleased to see it addressed.

ps. you might want to pull back on the 'production' it seemed to me a majority of the people that posted weren't all that into the videos and production. But liked the extra gameplay, the morphing, badges, and the fact they could get it right away ... I could be wrong, but longer and more challenging gameplay and less flying to Argentina would probably suit us all just fine.


I liked your comment cptduzer. I was hesitant to voice my opinion on this because I have been a MCF fan for years. I was so looking forward to a new MCF game that had hours and hours of gameplay and replayability as so many other games don't. I agree that the extra gameplay, morphing, badges are what we are wanting, not videos. If that's what drove the production costs up, then I think perhaps that's not the way to go in the future. I bought the 6.99 version because I read a lot of reviews of the CE and people didn't seem to be that impressed with the videos that they got. I just couldn't justify the extra expense for a video that most seemed to not like and wished they could turn it off after they got it. I didn't want that. Hopefully BF will keep some of our comments in mind when developing the next MCF game.

 

Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by nykelli1843 on Dec 12, 09 1:38 PM
I only paid attention on the first couple vid's (enjoyed the CC on them) but after that, blah...couldn't have cared a fig about them.

I'm more interested in a game that has a compelling storyline, a mixture of hidden objects, interactiveness and inventive puzzles.

While I applaud BF in trying a new initiative in using the video's, it didn't add a thing to the game for me. Maybe if they didn't do the Argentina jaunt for snow and more realism, the game could have been released at a lower CE price for everyone,

Just my two cents in today's ten-dollar world.

 
yourshannygirl
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by yourshannygirl on Dec 12, 09 1:39 PM
picman050967 wrote:The Collector's Edition is selling very well, and the regular version is selling very well, which means BFG can afford to make another one perhaps with an even bigger budget that this one. MCF: 7 coming in late 2010

Picman



Woo Hoo! I am really looking forward to MCF 7!

 
nwl43
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by nwl43 on Dec 12, 09 1:46 PM
I really liked the videos. It was different and for me it added to the atmosphere of the game. Made it seem more real. I'm willing to pay more for them.

 
anonymiss
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by anonymiss on Dec 12, 09 3:58 PM
I bought the CE version (don't know why really as although I'm enjoying the game, the MCF games haven't been the same for me since Madame Fate [my favourite]) - I certainly don't care about the videos (which if anything slow my laptop down!), the BTS stuff, wallpapers, integrated walkthrough,etc. I guess I just couldn't wait for the regular edition to be released - in all honesty, I look back now and wish I had waited - except for one thing - the 'regular' version NOT containing the morphing objects.

Anyway, all I wanted to say is that I do understand why those of you who have purchased the regular edition feel miffed - I know for a fact that the morphing objects were one of the highlights for me in Madame Fate, and I truly thought that the regular version of DG would have them. I understand that you feel cheated (and ultimately I couldn't care two hoots about collecting trophies either), but I do hope BF will reconsider and add the morphing objects to the regular edition. Not everyone wanted (or could afford) the CE edition, and I personally think it's only fair they are included in the regular edition - it might be a small thing, but it does add to the gameplay. MCF are a huge drawcard for BF (evidenced by the fact that they released the CE at a higher price - something they have never done before), and IMO, if you want to keep your faithful customers (and keep them happy!) it's really only a small thing to do!

Just my opinion!

Anonymiss.

Edited on 12/12/2009 at 4:00:15 PM PST


 
gameslvr
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by gameslvr on Dec 12, 09 4:00 PM
I think this thread should be retitled --- "Much ado about nothing".

Still can't understand how sillyfeet can feel cheated when she didn't even buy the $6.99 version?? To me that just, well, silly.

 
anonymiss
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by anonymiss on Dec 12, 09 4:08 PM
gameslvr wrote:I think this thread should be retitled --- "Much ado about nothing".

Still can't understand how sillyfeet can feel cheated when she didn't even buy the $6.99 version?? To me that just, well, silly.


I guess it's probably out of 'principle' now! She probably feels cheated, and I can understand why she does (and I purchased the CE version, so it's not like I have anything to complain about!) - particularly as it doesn't seem to have been made all that clear from the outset that the morphing objects wouldn't be included in the regular version - my own impression was that the CE version was more about 'extras' such as BTS stuff, videos, wallpapers, etc. I guess my impression was wrong, but then again, I'll be honest, I really didn't take all that much in - I just knew I was going to purchase the CE edition as I knew I couldn't wait (being the impatient so-and-so I am!).

I'm sure if this had been made very clear from the outset, there wouldn't be the brouhaha about it now!

 
sillyfeet
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by sillyfeet on Dec 12, 09 4:29 PM
anonymiss, thank you. You are exactly right!!!

I am not purchasing the game because it's the principal...if I purchase the game for 6.99 I should be getting the EXACT same game that everyone else got, but I wouldn't be so I will not buy it. That is my option. It is also my option to complain about the fact that I am not getting the same exact game. I can also purchase the more expensive version and get my morphing but I shouldn't have to spend more money to get a complete game. That is my opinion. You do not have to agree with it, but it is mine.

Like others have said...it was never made clear and that is what I have a problem with. Many of us assumed that we would be getting the morphing, and maybe that's our problem for assuming but BF never made it clear.

I was not going to respond in this thread again but when someone calls me out by name I feel I must.

 
ManuelCalavera
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by ManuelCalavera on Dec 12, 09 5:00 PM
bricktop999 wrote:I just finished Dire Grove. 5 hours gameplay on the "harder" setting.
Not a bad game compared to the really weak other games around, but not that good either. Lacked the charm, quirkiness and puzzles of Ravenshurst, and looked to me that all the development money had been paid for a load of uninteresting actor video footage that simply slowed the game down and gave it no extra feel or atmosphere.

I paid the usual $6.99, If I had been daft enough to have stumped up the $20 I would be ready to claim a refund.

The MCF series are the best games at BFG by a long way in my opinion, but seems no doubt that quirky humour and charm is being sacrificed for extra production values. It is a game, the main thrust should be on game-play. I was stuck several times in Ravenshurst, yet the only "puzzle" in Dire that took more than a few mnutes was the truly bad "Blacksmith" puzzle, an exercise in repetition rather than puzzling.

Overall, dissapointing. If another MCF game came out I would prolly pay the $6.99 for it, mainly as there is nothing else at BFG worth buying, but i wouldnt rush to buy it. I feel MCF have lost their way, their core skills being diluted for the sake of attempted "realism".


I agree with bricktop. I finished the stripped down version in 4 hours and 30 minutes. Less the hour demo, that means I paid 6.99 for 3 hours and thirty minutes of extra game time. It would indeed be "daft" to spend 19.99 on the collector version when I could shell out 15.99 for the 10th Anniversary Edition of the movie Titanic (at 194 minutes) instead and be infinitely more entertained with its truly great production values.

What bothers me is that BF may be setting a new precedent with this split tiering. I have no need for wallpapers and strategy guides, but I would like the "enhancements" (i.e. the easter eggs and whatnot) that are normally included in regular games to increase the fun factor. Dire Grove was a tad boring to me without the perks and most of the puzzles weren't clever and were downright tedious at times. If they choose to do this with all of the most anticipated games, I fear that I may give up casual games altogether in lieu of "standard" full length PC titles. And I see that others are already following suit with the delay in the release of the next Mortimer Beckett to trump it up as well. It does not bode well...

RTR had all the bells and whistles I needed. With Dire Grove, I felt I got less candy bar for the same price.

 
MissAbby
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by MissAbby on Dec 12, 09 5:13 PM
OH PLEASE JUST STOP (not directed at anyone)...it's a done deal! There are more important things to worry about on this earth than all this. You bought one, or you bought the other, or you didn't buy any. It's a game fishies, it's just a game. It's just a game..and I know I don't have to read these comments, but I have to scroll through the threads to get to something more important than this. Think about this..in a few weeks this will all be long past and there will be other things to post about. Hopefully more important things.
Abs

 
Areal
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by Areal on Dec 12, 09 5:33 PM
I've just played the demo and I'm downloading now the game, and already feel dissapointed. It's not the fact that there're no morphins, you can play without them and no problem, it's that I honestly understood the game was exactly the same, and actually it is not. They should have said very clearly what was and what was not in the game so we could have made up our mind. I feel cheated and manipulated, just like when you sign a contract and don't read the diminutive letter below.
As it is, the only result for me is that from now on I'll think twice before purchasing a long waited game, I'll distrust from Collector's Editions, and better than buying without thinking, I'll save the money for my 50.387 more hobbies.

 
MissAbby
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by MissAbby on Dec 12, 09 6:15 PM
In a couple of weeks this will all be old news. I know cause I've been here for awhile, and so do most of you. Please just let it go (everyone..including me I guess...LOL). I KNOW you have a right to post whatever you feel, but take a few minutes and read all the previous posts. Let's get the forum back new things, fun things, important things, relevant things..things that we can all enjoy. Enuf said...Love and hugs to all, Abs

 
sillyfeet
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by sillyfeet on Dec 12, 09 6:21 PM
Thank you all for chiming in with your opinion, even if it differs with mine. It does make me feel better to see that there are others who feel the same way as I do. And I do appreciate the support of those who got the CE AND still feel that we should have been given the morphs as well. It may not be important to a lot of you, but as you can see it is important to some of us for our "gaming experience". So thanks.

And for anyone who is "bored" by the whole topic and thinks we should move on...well, you're certainly welcome to bypass this thread.

 
NONONONONO
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by NONONONONO on Dec 12, 09 6:25 PM
and for anyone who continues to beat a dead horse in this thread, they are also welcome to trust that we have all gotten the message..over and over and over and over....


 
MissAbby
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by MissAbby on Dec 12, 09 6:42 PM
GREAT BIG HUGS TO NONONONONO

Abs

 
Itsupikachu
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by Itsupikachu on Dec 12, 09 7:59 PM
I think I understand both sides of this issue but I feel that as long as I'm able to play the entire game from beginning to end without any morphing included, I'm happy. Now, if the game wouldn't play right because of the missing morphs, then I would really be upset. By the way, I stumbled on the morphing items in the Madame Fate game quite by accident. I still haven't finished that game. To me it is difficult to play because it is timed. Developers need to understand that they would sell more games if they would only give us the choice of timed or untimed.

 
rlk0045
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by rlk0045 on Dec 12, 09 8:22 PM
I believe that if people understood that the cheaper game would not have morphing that they may have perferred to buy the full game. However; Big Fish implied that you would get the same game at the normal price if you waited until early December the buy the game. I think that Big Fish game should allow the people who brought the $6.99 version to upgrade if they wish for an additional of $13.00.

 
brillke
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by brillke on Dec 12, 09 8:22 PM
NONONONONO wrote:and for anyone who continues to beat a dead horse in this thread, they are also welcome to trust that we have all gotten the message..over and over and over and over....





LOL, can I get an amen?


Until this thread, I didnt realize the Madame Fate game, my all-time favorite game, had morphing objects. So, despite the feeling of banging my head against a brick wall, some good did come out of this, lol.




 
sillyfeet
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by sillyfeet on Dec 12, 09 8:41 PM
rlk0045 wrote:I believe that if people understood that the cheaper game would not have morphing that they may have perferred to buy the full game. However; Big Fish implied that you would get the same game at the normal price if you waited until early December the buy the game. I think that Big Fish game should allow the people who brought the $6.99 version to upgrade if they wish for an additional of $13.00.



 
Pepper010
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Re:?? for those who've played both versions of MCF

[Post New]by Pepper010 on Dec 12, 09 10:00 PM
MissAbby, NONO rock on! Great comments.

As for suggestions that people drop out of the thread if they don't like the comments--I believe that another poster has previously said very strongly, on many occasions, that people should NOT be told to go elsewhere if they don't like BFG. Therefore, it's illogical to tell people that they should go elsewhere than this thread if they don't agree with some comments.

BFG is a business, & they get to make their own choices. DG CE was a huge venture that was a new step forward for the company. Given that this package certainly looks like a seven-figure product, I don't see why anyone believes that the company shouldn't be able to make a profit on their investment--& choose how they market the product.

Also, my opinion about the commenters upset because, they believe, having a CE creates a two-tiered class system, or, as one poster declared, an "elite" group, is that BFG isn't a socialist workers' co-op. This isn't about class-ism.

As one poster pointed out, game makers have been selling CEs and special editions for a long time. Heck, even perfume makers do it.

Posters have also declared that it's "unfair" to offer the higher-priced product so near to Christmas. Christmas is a great selling time. Perfume makers routinely offer not just their regular products, but at Christmas they offer special sets. You can buy either that you choose, but to get angry because a perfume maker offers higher-priced special collections at Christmas is something that wouldn't occur to most shoppers. Whether you're buying perfume, a car or a meal, there are different pricing levels. That's part of a free marketplace.

BTW, because someone sees this situation from a business standpoint does not make them an "apologist" for BFG. Freedom of comments flows both ways.

I'd like BFG to stay in business & prosper. I've gotten a refund from them when a game was just a mess. I've commented negatively and positively.

I agree--after 2+weeks of the same comments,over many many threads, we are all very clear on various viewpoints and who's mad and why. Picman has graciously replied & I'm not sure what else can be done. I hope the Easter Bunny doesn't have to hop through the reruns of the same comments!

We've all said our piece, many times over. Time for good wishes of "happy holidays" all round.

 
 
 
 
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