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dice game

[Post New]by DecipherWarlord on Jul 8, 14 2:11 PM
I once stated they had changed the dice game odds after a little repair update, now I have the certainty.

Last 55 dice rolls, I'm 12 wins, 39 losses, 4 deuces.

I used to be able to win twice in three rolls, sometimes even win all three rolls, but now it is MAXIMUM one win per three rolls if not 0. I roll under 5 about 75% of the time (How do you wanna win with that?) and forget about beating the dragon EVER. Even if I face the dragon with my best roll (And since I roll low 75% of the time and have a maximum 1 win per game) he most often beats me. Forgotten to calculate the wins/ losses but I'm a 1-10-0 I think, something like that.

To finish the achievement, I need to beat the dragon 80 times and I'm at 19. 500 gold per shot, considering I lose minimum twice per game and if I try all my shots at him, makes an incredible amount of gold wasted to get there. RIDICULOUS.

The dice game was fair before, happened I was losing all rolls, but as seldom as I was winning all of them. Regularly won two rolls in a game and most often always one. Now it ain't like this anymore.

I think they tricked the dice game for us to lose tons of gold, hoping we will pay to get more gold... but did you see how much it cost in real money for a **** amount of it? Checked by curiosity and it's a shame! Those buying diamonds have a better return for their money but gold... USELESS to buy that.

It's understandable to wanna make money with the game, but trust me they don't have the right way of thinking for people to actually put money in this game.

Edited on 07/08/2014 at 5:29:52 PM PST


 
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[Post New]by KittChaos on Jul 8, 14 2:19 PM
I have had good luck with the dice game, beating the Wise Dragon to get the avatar and now going for the item award. I do have runs of bad luck at times, but it has balanced slightly in my favor overall. I hope your game starts to treat you nicer soon.

~Kitt

 

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[Post New]by whitebutterfly54 on Jul 8, 14 2:32 PM
I'm still working on the second achievement for the dragon and I've been playing since January. I haven't kept track of my odds, but they aren't very good. But I do keep trying...you never know when lady luck will smile.

 
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[Post New]by drew248 on Jul 8, 14 3:30 PM
Dice is a Casino Game--ThereFore By Definition--The Odds Are Always Against You--Rigged Or Not---But There Is Some Chance of Winning--That's Why Peeps Go Back !

Ex Casino Worker

Edited on 07/08/2014 at 3:32:05 PM PST


 
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[Post New]by lady_sabelle on Jul 8, 14 5:18 PM
My advice is never play the dice game when you are trying to GET money. Its a lot more heartbreaking when you lose if you're short on funds to open/craft/spin. I notice that I have much better luck at dice when I have more money. If I'm just scrapping by, I will lose almost every time.

Its the same for airship items, pet food, stamps and HOS items. If I don't have any, I never get them. If I have several already, I just keep getting more of them. On one of my games I was out of plain stamps... and for the life of me I couldn't get them. I put them on my wishlist and all my wonderful friends stepped up to help. Now I get them all the time again.

 
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[Post New]by kittensnlace on Jul 8, 14 6:07 PM
I don't seem to have any problem beating the dragon at least 50% of the time. I've already completed all three of the achievements for money on the dice game and only need around 45 more wins for beating the dragon. I don't seem to have as good luck beating the chamberlain at dice so I'm only just finished on level one for winning items on the dice.

It just seems that every game is different. This game, I only seem to accumulate no more then 30 of the red/brown stamps, but I have in excess of 350 rare stamps, 550 unusual stamps and 1000 of the common stamps. On my airship items, my lowest amount is 825 of the genii lamps.

 
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[Post New]by govegril on Jul 8, 14 6:16 PM
I have also had good luck with the Dragon and have beat him the 200 times.
I seem to have worst luck against Salty- he hates to give me anything!

I agree it is pointless to buy gold - you are better off buying diamonds and use them to craft items to sell if you are urgent for coins.


 

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[Post New]by DecipherWarlord on Jul 8, 14 6:52 PM
It's just that the change is so sudden. If I would have kept score and compared to now, it would probably go like this:

55 rolls of the past: 21-29-5
55 rolls nowadays: 12-39-4

Was always winning 1-2 out of 3 rolls regularly, sometimes losing all but sometimes winning all and my rolls were better too.

Average roll in the past: Around 7-8
Average roll these days: Around 3-4 (Not kidding)

75% of the time I was rolling above 6, now it's 75% under 5.

You guys, if you aren't playing me, are EXTREMELY lucky with that dragon! Hope it's just an amazing string of badluck!

 
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[Post New]by kittensnlace on Jul 8, 14 7:33 PM
I've only been playing on this game since I returned to Massachusetts the middle of May, and, as I said, I've had no problem playing against the dragon.

I have three games that I was playing on my computer in Florida since the beginning of January, and all three of those games play very different. One of them I had very poor luck playing dice, winning one out of every three plays, one of them about 50/50, and the third game about 75/25. On the third game (the one that is 75/25) The only eggs I've ever seen are the ones I got through the achievements. On the game that is one out of 3, I've seen the eggs on the wheel all the time and the second game, the only time I see eggs is if I've already gotten them (either through gifts or achievements)

As I said, I have to give a lot of credit to the programmers, because it seems that all games, even though the same basic game, they all play a bit differently.

Thankfully, we have a very generous community here, always willing to share in their good fortune.

 
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dice game

[Post New]by Fishpole on Jul 8, 14 7:42 PM
DecipherWarlord wrote:I once stated they had changed the dice game odds after a little repair update, now I have the certainty.

Last 55 dice rolls, I'm 12 wins, 39 losses, 4 deuces.

I used to be able to win twice in three rolls, sometimes even win all three rolls, but now it is MAXIMUM one win per three rolls if not 0. I roll under 5 about 75% of the time (How do you wanna win with that?) and forget about beating the dragon EVER. Even if I face the dragon with my best roll (And since I roll low 75% of the time and have a maximum 1 win per game) he most often beats me. Forgotten to calculate the wins/ losses but I'm a 1-10-0 I think, something like that.

To finish the achievement, I need to beat the dragon 80 times and I'm at 19. 500 gold per shot, considering I lose minimum twice per game and if I try all my shots at him, makes an incredible amount of gold wasted to get there. RIDICULOUS.

The dice game was fair before, happened I was losing all rolls, but as seldom as I was winning all of them. Regularly won two rolls in a game and most often always one. Now it ain't like this anymore.

I think they tricked the dice game for us to lose tons of gold, hoping we will pay to get more gold... but did you see how much it cost in real money for a **** amount of it? Checked by curiosity and it's a shame! Those buying diamonds have a better return for their money but gold... USELESS to buy that.

It's understandable to wanna make money with the game, but trust me they don't have the right way of thinking for people to actually put money in this game.


Actually, if you look at from the point of view of 'how much enjoyment you get from this game' ie: how much time have you spent playing?

Do you 'like' playing this game?

A 'Collector's Edition' costs about the same as almost 6,000 gold coins or you can buy over 13,000 for twice that amount. If you spend them 'thriftily' they WILL last awhile & it does pay in the end.

And before everyone 'jumps' on me....I don't work for the Developer or BFG. I'm just an old lady from the west coast of Canada that really appreciates the amount of work that has to go into the making of a game of this calibre. When you look at the details and all the little nuances that are put into it, it really makes you sit back and think....how do they do it for free?

Yes, we've had a few 'glitches' along the way.....I guess it's been a learning experience for everyone. But I for one have had months of enjoyment from this game!

 

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[Post New]by DecipherWarlord on Jul 9, 14 12:24 AM
As I said, the change of luck is too brutal for me to be natural but anyways.

Some of you spoke of the wheel of fortune and for that I must admit I'm satisfied. Sure I get my share of crappy wands and crystal balls on it, but I regularly get 1 or 2 of the special items/craft from it. An egg finally showed up yesterday, the squirrel one and I got it after trying a little bit more than I usually do (I never go past 300 gold on the wheel, but went for 400 this time and got the egg).

I often get diamonds from it and even got my very first unique stamp some days ago! My luck on the wheel has been constant and very different from the dice game... mostly these days. Again, the dice game was fair before, but now it suddenly became a complete waste of gold.

 
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[Post New]by kdreetz on Sep 20, 14 9:34 PM
I'm getting really annoyed with that scoundrel always taking my money and rarely giving anything in return (I think he's really my teenage daughter in disguise).

How can I lose 12 dice games in a row!?!? I used to be about 50-50 over a length of time, but that's recently dropped to 25%.

If Vegas rigged their craps tables like this, no one would want to play. Grrrr Argh.

 

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[Post New]by DecipherWarlord on Sep 21, 14 12:43 AM
It is rigged big time.

Never expect to win more than once on the 3 rolls. Seldom go for 2 wins and never go for 3 wins (it'll happen very rarely but don't hope for it)... So choose your opponents (amount of gold or items) according to that rule.

Keep in mind you will most often be beat twice (mostly against the dragon).

So if you win the first roll, don't go too often for 400 or 500 gold... choose a 100 or 150 gold opponent instead. Better losing 100 than 400. Catch my drift? Play as a pessimistic. Since I've been doing that, my gold doesn't go down as fast and sometimes even goes up playing dices.

If you win 500 gold against the dragon and you lose 100 twice against the vampiress, you still make gains

This way you'll lose less gold.

I only play for the achievements (gold gained and beating the dragon; finished items gained) and for daily quests. When all of that is done, I'll never play dices again.

Edited on 09/21/2014 at 12:45:37 AM PST


 

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[Post New]by fabulaparva on Sep 21, 14 2:15 AM
Currently 66 wins, 70 losses, 15 deuces. Longest series of consecutive losses: 7. Longest series of consecutive wins 6. Once I've won the Frog Witch avatar, I'll check the distributions of the numbers I and he rolls and try to see if those follow even closely the correct probability distribution of dice rolls.

Of course, even if it wasn't showing up rigged for me, it doesn't prove that it can't be rigged in general. However, starting to gather info from those who are willing to post their points would probably lead to reporting error... those whose games are going badly are more likely to post about it and be even interested in the whole issue than those who go around even or those who have good luck.



 

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[Post New]by llaurelwreath on Sep 21, 14 6:08 PM
my game runs in spurts in the dice game. I seem to have a periods where I can't win that last for days and then I get a small lucky streak and some so-so streaks but I just had 3 days where I rolled very low numbers and couldn't win anything from anyone.

Hope your game improves Decipher Warlord.

Edited on 09/21/2014 at 6:09:33 PM PST


 

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[Post New]by ReverendKillJoy on Sep 26, 14 4:25 PM
I swear the in-game characters cheat

I always seem to end up with deuces on high scores. Rarely ever on anything lower then 6. "Salty" is the biggest cheat

 

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[Post New]by DecipherWarlord on Sep 26, 14 5:05 PM
ReverendKillJoy wrote:I swear the in-game characters cheat

I always seem to end up with deuces on high scores. Rarely ever on anything lower then 6. "Salty" is the biggest cheat


The enormous amount of deuces I get also tends to prove my point that the dice game is rigged. Also, didn't you notice that when you roll a high score, you most often get beat by 1 pt or win by 1 pt? It happens so often. 2 indications of a rigged game to me.

I mean, why would they rig it? It's virtual stuff and the dice game won't be SOOO great that players won't have to spend money should they want it... I mean they are REALLY greedy those devs. Why not let the real law of hazard and probabilities rule the dice game?

Greed. They are afraid of lucky players who will get gold... 'cause it's obvious they don't want us to get too much gold in-game, so we'll have to buy some with the ridiculous rates they offer.

Greed.

(Out of 20 rolls, I probably get a constant flow of around 8-11 deuces)

Edited on 09/26/2014 at 5:25:59 PM PST


 

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[Post New]by FishyFlyTyer on Sep 26, 14 5:12 PM
I don't do too badly on the dice table, BUT the chamberlain and salty are the worst cheats going do about 50% with the dragon and 30% with the others. It's all in the roll of the dice (and how I hold my tounge )

 
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[Post New]by kdreetz on Sep 27, 14 12:39 AM
I rolled an 11 with the dragon!! Guess what he rolls? Box cars. If that's not rigged, I don't know what is (besides presidential elections and every game of chance at carnivals).

 
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[Post New]by bfgWaimea on Sep 27, 14 2:00 PM
Hi Everyone,

I was just swimming by and wanted to let everyone know that we are working with the developers in order to come to a balance that seems more fair when it comes to the odds for the dice game.

I understand the frustration with the current odds and that you'd want to see more winnings. However, I do want to note that the game is supposed to increase in difficulty as you progress and that the odds of winning against the Dragon or Troll are supposed to be lower than the odds of winning against Annabelle or the Iron Knight. As in a fighting game, it's easier to beat the lower-level opponents than the higher-level ones. I also need to remind everyone that we need to stick with the Forum Rules and try to maintain a positive environment as best we can.

Treat others with respect. Harassing, attacking, threatening, provoking, calling unwanted attention to, name-calling, insulting, or bothering other users, moderators, or Big Fish employees on the forums will not be tolerated. Play nice.


As a note, I did want to mention that the game is scheduled for maintenance on September 29, 2014. While I can't guarantee it, there is a possibility that this may entail an update that improves the current odds.

In the meantime, thanks for your patience and I hope that you continue to enjoy the game.

bfgWaimea

 
 
 
 
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