ChestnutHeights
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Experience Meter-- Please Post What You Need to Achieve the Next Level

[Post New]by ChestnutHeights on Jul 14, 14 5:31 AM
Thanks No Fish for asking questions of Boom Zap. Here's their response to why the change in the experience meter. Thought it would beneficial for ALL AK players to see

Hi @NoFish Today! So in the upcoming update (as mentioned in another thread) we have also updated level up rewards (energy and crystals) as well as improved drop rates on collectibles. We understand everyone's concern on the energy meter, and it is definitely our fault that we didn't see this earlier. Unfortunately, we are unable to share the exact formula for the increase I will try to explain. Please take note that these are not the exact figures.

Before the update, there was a glitch with the experience points (XP) meter on Level 51 onwards. Example -

Level 46: 1XP needed to reach Level 47
Level 47: 2XP needed to reach Level 48
Level 48: 3XP needed to reach Level 49
Level 49: 4XP needed to reach Level 50
Level 50: 3XP needed to reach Level 51
Level 51: 2XP needed to reach Level 52
Level 52: 1XP needed to reach Level 53

As you would know in most games, the higher the level, the more challenging the game should be (and at the same time, rewards are greater). So it should be:

Level 49: 4XP needed to reach Level 50
Level 50: 5XP needed to reach Level 51
Level 51: 6XP needed to reach Level 52
Level 52: 7XP needed to reach Level 53

So in Level 52, if you used to need 1XP, after the fix it would be 7XP. In the actual game, this is why it seems to have quadrupled. I assure you that this was not done to force players to the bank, but to make things correct for future updates. It is important to have this fixed especially when we add more levels beyond 100 in the future.

We also do our best to make every update as player-friendly as possible, but we do apologize that lately it has been a hit-and-miss, which we didn't intend to do. You do know that both ART and AK are our first ventures into free-to-play, and we continue to learn new things every day. We hope you'll continue to play and share us your thoughts, so we'll know what to retain, remove or improve. We're really glad you're being very honest with your opinions. Again, thank you so much!

Edited on 07/15/2014 at 9:44:39 AM PST


 
mammaw_1
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Re:Experience Meter Information

[Post New]by mammaw_1 on Jul 14, 14 8:33 AM
Math has never been my best subject but seems to me that a jump from just over 63,000 XP to 233,000 XP is a darn site more than the 17XP's it should have been based on your examples.

At the max rate of approx 500 XP received for completing the newest HOS I would have to play those HOS scenes 466 times just to level up. Not going to happen my friend.

I have invested about one hundred dollars in crystals so far, but I will not invest another dime in the game if the XP amounts are not corrected. Also, I missed one day logging in and my bonus board went back to Day 1. I realize there should be a penalty for not logging in, but to wipe out 67 days of loyalty rewards for one single missed day is not fair. I especially found it depressing since I missed that day because I spent it with my dying mother.

Since the bonus bundle is awarded after logging in for a certain number of days, believe it would be much fairer to simply relegate the player back to the day after they received the last bundle instead of all the way back to Day 1.

I sincerely hope you address these issues soon, because I am really getting tired of waiting for the glitches to be fixed and more realistic goals.

 
NoFishToday
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Re:Experience Meter Information

[Post New]by NoFishToday on Jul 14, 14 10:12 PM
Any math geniuses out there? Here are the only numbers I know. Numbers were not changed below level 50. At level 49, it takes 83,410 to reach level 50. Now, at level 61, it takes 215,243 to reach level 62. Anyone care to take a stab at this? These numbers are current, however the answer supplied by BZ looks "hypothetical" to me. Any other levels please feel free to add your level and target exp to level up. Maybe we can figure this out?

 
Zevah4
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Re:Experience Meter Information

[Post New]by Zevah4 on Jul 14, 14 10:45 PM
I can't explain the numbers because I don't know the formula, but I can explain what happened to me and why I don't have an issue with the number of stars it takes to level up.

Each level up to 50 took more stars than the last, but at 50, I was set back to the beginning. I thought that was odd, but I was okay with it LOL. That happened to you guys also, right? I don't remember the numbers for the lower levels.

Well let's see if I can figure anything out. It takes 83,410 to get to 50. 61 is 11 levels higher. If I take 215,243 and subtract 83,410, I get 131,833. So there is a difference in the energy required of 131,833 to go the additional 11 levels. If I divide 131,833 by 11, I get 11984.8 round up to 11,985.

So it takes approximately 11,985 extra energy to go up each level. This is just an approximation because I doubt that each level up is the same increase in points. Hmmm... let's test that.

Level 50 - 83,410
Level 51 - 83,410 + 11,985 = 95,395
Level 52 - 95,395 + 11,985 = 107,380
Level 53 - 107,380 + 11,985 = 119,365
Level 54 - 119,365 + 11,985 = 131,350
Level 55 - 131,350 + 11,985 = 143,335
Level 56 - 143,335 + 11,985 = 155,320
Level 57 - 155,320 + 11,985 = 167,305
Level 58 - 167,305 + 11,985 = 179,290
Level 59 - 179,290 + 11,985 = 191,275
Level 60 - 191,275 + 11,985 = 203,260
Level 61 - 203,260 + 11,985 = 215,245
Level 61 - 215,245 + 11,985 = 227,230


It looks pretty close, not exact. So it appears that it takes approximately 12,000 extra energy stars to level up each time. Very approximate here LOL!

 
NoFishToday
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Re:Experience Meter Information

[Post New]by NoFishToday on Jul 14, 14 11:02 PM
Great effort Zevah! Let's see if this matches up. Anyone at these levels care to weigh in? Also, according to BZ, the next update will reward us with energy and crystals more in line with level, if I am to understand correctly, but I have a query in for clarification.

 
amtoday
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Re:Experience Meter Information

[Post New]by amtoday on Jul 15, 14 4:09 AM
I am at Level 52, and need 102,370 points to level up.

 

Re:Experience Meter Information

[Post New]by DaisyMaeDriver on Jul 15, 14 5:10 AM
Don't remember what it was before the update but to get level 75 it now takes 589,050

 
NoFishToday
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Re:Experience Meter Information

[Post New]by NoFishToday on Jul 15, 14 6:38 AM
In another thread, called "Level Meter", there was a post by someone at level 76, who stated that their new target was 732,680. So, if 74 to 75 is 589,050, and 76 to 77 is 732,680, there is a difference of 143,630. Anyone out there at level 75 who could give us their "number"? (1/2 of this number is 71,815). There was also a post by someone at level 83 who now needs 1,268,700 and someone at level 93 who needs 2,937,680. Sorry folks, I have no idea how to figure this, but maybe Zevah will give it another shot if we can provide some more numbers. I'd love to be able to prove that these calculations have some rhyme or reason to them (other than the necessitation of bank purchases for energy). So players, please post your level and EXACT "level up" number to this thread, it would be most appreciated!

 
NoFishToday
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Re:Experience Meter Information

[Post New]by NoFishToday on Jul 15, 14 6:42 AM
I am level 61, and need 215,240 experience points to reach level 62.

A friend at level 66 needs 324,530 experience points to reach level 67.

Edited on 07/15/2014 at 8:18:01 AM PST


 
arwen777
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Re:Experience Meter Information

[Post New]by arwen777 on Jul 15, 14 7:15 AM
I can't remember the exact numbers but approximately you need 154.000 for level 57 and 168.000 for level 58.

 

Re:Experience Meter Information

[Post New]by JirafaVanidosa on Jul 15, 14 8:51 AM
I am at lvl 65 and for next 66 lvl I need 298 970 XP.

Edited on 07/15/2014 at 8:53:59 AM PST


 
ChestnutHeights
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Re:Experience Meter-- Please Post What You Need to Achieve the Next Level

[Post New]by ChestnutHeights on Jul 15, 14 9:45 AM
Hope the new heading helps.. Let me know. I'll check mine later today and post too! Good luck with the detective work.

 
Zevah4
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Re:Experience Meter-- Please Post What You Need to Achieve the Next Level

[Post New]by Zevah4 on Jul 15, 14 10:14 AM
I am at level 57, but I didn't pay good attention when I was in the game. I think I need 152,000 or 154,000 (plus change) to level up.

I will come back tonight and take a look at all the numbers everyone is posting and see if we can figure out how this is working. LOL! Math is not my greatest subject but I often find it fun to do, because I don't do it often


 
NoFishToday
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Re:Experience Meter-- Please Post What You Need to Achieve the Next Level

[Post New]by NoFishToday on Jul 15, 14 11:14 AM
Thank you Zevah! The "old" numbers no longer count, so the info we would be working with is:

What level are you currently? How much experience do you need to get to the next level? (Be exact please, even if you have to go back into the game to have a look before posting.)

Even though it was a shock to me, my new number is nothing compared to what the increasing levels have to achieve. Where I am having a disconnect with these numbers, is when I see someone needing close to 3 MILLION to level up, or even 1.2 million. That does not seem to be following the BZ answer, so I am sure if there is a calculatory "mistake" they would want to know about it (even though of course, the experience adjustment itself, is not a mistake, but a "glitch fix".)

 

Re:Experience Meter-- Please Post What You Need to Achieve the Next Level

[Post New]by sadgallagher on Jul 15, 14 1:15 PM
I am on level 83. If I remember at the time of the update I needed something like 93,000 point to level up. Now I need 1, 298,310. NO kidding!

 
barbir
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Re:Experience Meter-- Please Post What You Need to Achieve the Next Level

[Post New]by barbir on Jul 15, 14 4:07 PM
I'm on level 47 and I need 69.660 to level up

 
ChestnutHeights
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Re:Experience Meter-- Please Post What You Need to Achieve the Next Level

[Post New]by ChestnutHeights on Jul 15, 14 9:01 PM
Level 55 requires 131,250 to level up.

 

Re:Experience Meter-- Please Post What You Need to Achieve the Next Level

[Post New]by caramel4406 on Jul 15, 14 10:29 PM
Level 54 - I need 120,830 to level up.

 
Zevah4
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Re:Experience Meter-- Please Post What You Need to Achieve the Next Level

[Post New]by Zevah4 on Jul 15, 14 11:31 PM
We need a few more numbers. Anyone know what it takes to get from Level 53 to level 54? Or from Level 56 to 57?

Those numbers would be helpful, if anyone has them.

Thanks!


 
KKim
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Re:Experience Meter-- Please Post What You Need to Achieve the Next Level

[Post New]by KKim on Jul 17, 14 11:34 AM
Hi all... I am at level 57... energy level now is... 105,714/154.820. It seems to take a long long time to finish a level... and for what... ? The Newer people who don't know the future of this game... will gain quit a bit more benifits then the loyal ones who struggled through this all... I am one of them. This game is good and I wait for the next "Update" to see the future. I believe Boomzap is doing their best to fix "things"....so hang in there. I also think that this is a wonderful game and when the "Bugs" get "Sprayed"... it will be even better. Big Fish has been Great through this all, doing the best that they can.(Though it is not their fault). Please have a bit more patience and hang in there. "They" are For You, and Not Against You. Much love and patience to you from me.... Kim

 
 
 
 
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