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Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by Fargosis on Apr 8, 12 10:46 AM
Enamorte wrote:I, for one, was very disappointed that we didn't find out who Victor's mother was (among other things!) That's one of the things I was really wanting to find out. I guess it could be Rose, but I just don't recall it ever being explicitly stated.

There were so many questions left unanswered with EFR, if there isn't going to be another game to answer them, then I wish that BF could answer them themselves rather than leave us hanging. Or am I expecting too much?


i was dissapointed that the line
"Your a half demon Charles" was not in the game or spoken by our favorite half gaint
this game is full of wtf momments
"We will not tell charles about his father," charles is later put in the cell next to the one his father had
wtf
hi-security locks in the 1800's wtf
charles having 2 diffrent paitent numbers wtf
everyone having a diary/journal at this point wtf
charles obtaining dynomite wtf
a little kid being able to break out of a high security cell and no one noticing his (okay this was a really funny joke bigfish)
Charles being born yet his father spent years in the mental instatution (it takes 2 to tango bigfish)
charles never recieving treatment (unless at one point he got the shock theropy in which i sympothise with him even more now) wtf
spontanious orgasums wtf (creepiest was Abigals) wtf
the actor playing charles' voice changing in the middle of the game wtf

 
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Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by Fargosis on Apr 8, 12 12:56 PM
rainingreality3 wrote:Anyone wonder was the drawing at the end was?

which one?
englishman-either one of the doctors, or a younger victor
the thingmaboob- charles dalimars father who is aparently slenderman
._.makes sense to me......

 
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Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by Fargosis on Apr 8, 12 1:06 PM
Butterflyshrimp wrote:First time posting. Am new to the internet (3 weeks) & all things technical but not to MCF, especially Dire Grove, 13th Skull, Madam Fate & ALL things Ravenhearst. Had the internet installed especially for EFR. Read all the EFR speculation thread & was amazed at how very intelligent all the fishes are, & how fast you solved the clues.

Could Honored Burial be referring to the Queen or "Queenie", and we will no longer be hearing from her? After all, she was the one that started the MD on these missions. Don't think you could get any more honored than the Queen of England (if in fact, it was the REAL Queen.

Does anyone recognize the song Charles is humming in the trailer for EFR, or is this just more of his insane mumblings? Thought I recognized it with 2 possibilities, but not sure.





i think it was just some little tune the composers came up with
charles dalimars humming is terrifiying
his poem reciting is horrifing
and his singing.........kills people 0.0

 
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Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by Fargosis on Apr 8, 12 1:12 PM
Mimisix wrote:
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hmmmm... maybe Charles was honoring his past by burying it and in honoring it he was justifying his current behavior.
But that doesn't really make much sense either lol.

I have another crazy idea that keeps popping into my head and I've written it twice here and keep deleting it, but it won't go away. Could it be possible that Victor was the one in MF's circus and was afflicted with a Progeria type ailment which could account for why he looks so much older than Charles. And, this was his "attraction" in the circus. I do hope that BF wouldn't go this far tho to minimize a heartbreaking affliction.

I know I'm no where near as up-to-date as so many of you are, i.e. time line-wise. In fact I now have myself completely screwed up. But many have said on here to just throw it in the ring 'cause it may trigger something in someone else.
End.

counter theory on the bizarre age diffrence: iever since ravenhearst charles has started becoming more and more real making him more threating, however charles has also been losing power as well in ravenhearst he is beyond our comprenhension, in madam fate he is a spirit who we can see and hear but can not touch or hurt in return he is floating between that of a spirit and that of a human we cans still not touch him be we can furt him in escape he is human everything he can physically do to us we can do to him. Also notice how charles is always seen in low light in the cutschenes, this is a cheap yet effective movie tactic to make something look older and more threataning along with more shots from an agle semi-below charles. but really i think they just blew the budget on charles' cgi rendered ****

 
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Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by Fargosis on Apr 8, 12 1:21 PM
larwen wrote:
tunaontoast wrote:Was anyone else very surprised that.....

Highlighted..They decided to bring Emma, Rose and girls back to life. I was a bit stumped by that because we saw them in coffins as skeletons in RTR and the fact that they are now just placed into current time.


Highlight
I wondered about that too. When you click on the last picture
in the casebook it says something like,
"They will have to adapt to life in the twenty first century".
I thought that was kind of odd to just wedge in there.
It's going to have to be revisited later. You can't just drop a
bomb like that and then never mention it again. Even if it's just
a single line in the next game. Something along the lines of
"Emma, Rose and the girls are adapting nicely" or something
like that.


are you reffering too.......................
A BIG LIPPED ALLIGATOR MOMMENT!?

 
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Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by Fargosis on Apr 10, 12 5:59 PM
omg, i just figured out that Abigal Dalimar is a refrence to Abby Lee from dance moms
XD XD XD XD THATS HILARIOUS

 

Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by DreaD151 on Apr 20, 12 8:59 AM
Please tell me there is gonna be another ravenhearst.....Since discovering bigfish and point n click hog adventure mysteries my fiance and I have played at least two a weekend and beaten them and it all started with ravenhearst..... now that we have played all most all the horror adventure mysterys and MCF i am dying for another one...... please dont let us down big fish we work horrible jobs and we come home every day to your games to soothe our tired souls and give us some excitement(we do have lives beyond our computer and home hahahha just expressing the point of how much we love the games ) and if you do make another prequel or sequel to ravenhearst i beg you to make it so long not even your best gamers could finish it in a week hahhahaha thanks for all you do long live MCF and Ravenhearst i hope everyone enjoys the best alternative to game consoles as much as we do it is so thrilling to see games that arent all first person shooter and mind rotting garbage that the consoles offer in every direction .....

 

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[Post New]by carryabc on May 4, 12 7:39 PM

Edited on 05/12/2012 at 4:48:58 PM PST


 
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Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by Fargosis16 on May 17, 12 11:04 AM
I'm convinced that Stephan king is on the Mcf project because ever since return the games have followed a pattern
Only children and 1 adult(never the detective) knows exactly what's going on
Animal guide who helps at least one character once
At least one character who thinks there's a scientific explanation (most obvious in escape with Dr. Lanswell)

A lot of Stephan king story's follow the same pattern, mostly cats eye

 
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Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by Fargosis16 on May 24, 12 11:04 AM
dogmama wrote:
laurakay76 wrote:
rainingreality3 wrote:If Charles' Father is the raven then who is the black cat i wonder. And who is Victors MOTHER!?


Highlight for the answer:

Rose was Victor's mother. We learn in Return to Ravenhearst that Charles forced himself on her and Victor was the result.

Laurakay,
Just wondering where you saw that in RTR? My understanding is that we have no idea who his mother was.









SPOILERS THAT I CANNOT COLOR CAUSE IPAD




You remember where all the pictures of victor are? On one of them there is a picture (warning it was nightmare fuel for me) of Charles in his imnotreallysureifhesaghostornot cloak (in escape it is revealed that the clock itself is part of the magikz) holding a baby, with the tag "I promised you a son" this hints that Charles stole the baby and raised him to be TEH evils the tag at first was speculated to be referring to Rose, however given the information about Charles father it now puts on a new twist to that line more like "the family tradition will live on" (I'm guessing that this pattern of a father corrupting his son making him all evil and stuff has been going on for generations with mixed results) which may explain why Charles was so desperate to marry Emma, although that wa not the case with the detective since the detective is the only no relative that knew Charles as well as she/he does charles was hoping that they would understand why he does what he does and sympathies with him which seemed to work temporarily because in one of the detectives journal entry's (by this game everyone but rose has had a ****ing diary) says that 'I refuse to sympathies with him no more' because of the wording it sounds like once apon a time in or out of this game the detective actually did sympathies with our Charles

 
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Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by Fargosis16 on May 24, 12 11:13 AM
MoDreams wrote:Just to add my two cents worth regarding the speculation about --- (highlight)
Charle's father
I was confused on that point too. It says he is still alive at one point, then says he died a year before Charles was committed, but then Charles states in his journal that he learned a great deal from his father. I had the strong impression that Charle's father inhabited the first maximum security cell while Charles was living in the cell on the left. It is clear that the father died sometime before Charles escaped. We know now that Charles left the asylum sometime AFTER he read about Emma Ravenhearst's arrival in Blackpool. So in short order he dispatched his mother, inherited her wealth, and was able to present himself as a "gentleman" when he met Emma.

and about (again highlight)
Victor
He appears older than Charles because at the end of RTR when we dispatched Charles to the netherworld, Victor quickly escaped back to 1895. Charles states in EFR that Victor was able to begin work on his magnum opus (his greatest achievement ever) which was bringing the dead back to life. I gathered that through the completion of this work, Victor was able to bring Charles back to life, and at a younger appearance than he had in RTR and Madame Fate. So Victor is now 120 or thereabouts, while Charles is appearing in his 30'ish to 40'ish age. It was after bringing Charles back to life, that Charles began this project of luring the MD back to make the MD "understand", and meanwhile capturing some unfortunate citizens of Blackpool to power his infernal machine that eventually brought Emma, Rose and the twins back to life.

Frankly I am getting tired of Charles and hope to see no more of him in the future

~~~MO~~~

 
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Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by Fargosis16 on May 24, 12 11:30 AM
Fargosis wrote:
Mimisix wrote:
Highlight to read:


hmmmm... maybe Charles was honoring his past by burying it and in honoring it he was justifying his current behavior.
But that doesn't really make much sense either lol.

I have another crazy idea that keeps popping into my head and I've written it twice here and keep deleting it, but it won't go away. Could it be possible that Victor was the one in MF's circus and was afflicted with a Progeria type ailment which could account for why he looks so much older than Charles. And, this was his "attraction" in the circus. I do hope that BF wouldn't go this far tho to minimize a heartbreaking affliction.

I know I'm no where near as up-to-date as so many of you are, i.e. time line-wise. In fact I now have myself completely screwed up. But many have said on here to just throw it in the ring 'cause it may trigger something in someone else.
End.

counter theory on the bizarre age diffrence: iever since ravenhearst charles has started becoming more and more real making him more threating, however charles has also been losing power as well in ravenhearst he is beyond our comprenhension, in madam fate he is a spirit who we can see and hear but can not touch or hurt in return he is floating between that of a spirit and that of a human we cans still not touch him be we can furt him in escape he is human everything he can physically do to us we can do to him. Also notice how charles is always seen in low light in the cutschenes, this is a cheap yet effective movie tactic to make something look older and more threataning along with more shots from an agle semi-below charles. but really i think they just blew the budget on charles' cgi rendered ****

 
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Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by Fargosis16 on May 24, 12 2:18 PM
Bordrblaze wrote:I thought this game was going to tie together all the previous games?

How does Louisiana and pirates ships fit into it?

Also how did Dire Grove and banshees tie in? What am I missing?

Victor was loving in the grocery store in dire grove while rebuilding Charles grandest device and the pirate from 13th skull was Charles grandfather (mothers side)

 
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Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by Fargosis16 on May 24, 12 2:43 PM
sinshack wrote:
rainingreality3 wrote:If Charles' Father is the raven then who is the black cat i wonder. And who is Victors MOTHER!?


OK, it's officially difficult to quote a whited-out post! Highlight above to see what I am replying to, below to see my reply.

Great questions - I had forgotten (again) about Victor's mother. We're still guessing whether the raven is Charles' father, Charles himself, or just some stupid bird that keeps getting caught in fires but the black cat is another mystery - is it the same cat all the time? Is it Posey in disguise? Is that Victor's mother, and if so, who was she when she was human?

In the letter to Emma, which I believe is from Ravenhearst, Charles mentions to Emma that he is bringing Rose to take care of her, and mentions Rose's daughters will accompany her. He also states that he will be bringing her a son, who we realize is Victor.

Someone who went to the party said it was confirmed by one of the developers that Victor is Charles biologic son, so the question at this point is whether Charles had Victor when he was younger, before he met Emma. That seems likely, since he mentions in the letter that Victor "will preserve Ravenhearst Manor as we dance within its walls for eternity," which implies that Victor is already groown up and capable of being the caretaker of the manor. The other possibility is that Charles was a bad boy in more ways than one, and while he was trying to trap Emma into marriage he was having a baby with somebody else.



 
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Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by Fargosis16 on May 24, 12 3:11 PM
MoDreams wrote:Just to add my two cents worth regarding the speculation about --- (highlight)
Charle's father
I was confused on that point too. It says he is still alive at one point, then says he died a year before Charles was committed, but then Charles states in his journal that he learned a great deal from his father. I had the strong impression that Charle's father inhabited the first maximum security cell while Charles was living in the cell on the left. It is clear that the father died sometime before Charles escaped.
[color=#ffffff]Victor
He appears older than Charles because at the end of RTR when we dispatched Charles to the netherworld, Victor quickly escaped back to 1895. Charles states in EFR that Victor was able to begin work on his magnum opus (his greatest achievement ever) which was bringing the dead back to life. I gathered that through the completion of this work, Victor was able to bring Charles back to life, and at a younger appearance than he had in RTR and Madame Fate. So Victor is now 120 or thereabouts, while Charles is appearing in his 30'ish to 40'ish age. It was after bringing Charles back to life, that Charles began this project of luring the MD back to make the MD "understand", and meanwhile capturing some unfortunate citizens of Blackpool to power his infernal machine that eventually brought Emma, Rose and the twins back to life.

Frankly I am getting tired of Charles and hope to see no more of him in the future

~~~MO~~~


I do think this is the end of Charles and Victor but not the end of the Dalimar family the ravenhearst games develop their characters in a pattern: tell a little, then show a little then tell some more then throw a bucket load of characterization at us so it's going to be a few more games and years before Mr.Dalimar gets his own game but he will most likely be in the next game UNLESS he really was the banshee then next non standalone game will be his story, and this is just to make you laugh:
Charles: are you a god?
Mr.Dalimar: what?
Charles: the doctors talk about how powerfull gods are
Mr.Dalimar: No, I'm Not a god
Charles: are you a wizard?
Mr.Dalimar: wizards arent real either
Charles turns head sideways* are you a raven?
Mr.Dalimar: T.T *facepalms*
Who gets the refrence?

 
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Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by Fargosis16 on May 24, 12 9:19 PM
GameLvr30 wrote:Yea, finally someone wants to discuss the ending. Thanks Sinshack! (whited out below)

I thought the raven at the end was Charles’ father because the game told us that he took the form of a raven. We saw the raven watching us all throughout the game while we know Charles was corporeal.

I think it was Charles’ father who was depicted in those two drawings we got after the game was over. I also believe BF has another Ravenhearst planned for some point in the future but we’ll be battling dear old daddy at that time.

I like the thought that Rose or Emma could pop up in future games even non-Ravenhearst ones. We spent so much time rescuing them a status report wouldn’t hurt. Maybe the girls even become Master Detectives when they get older.

I would like to know how Abigail became what we saw she was -- the tyrant, stuffing her face, trapped in bed. I don’t know if the things Charles showed us were all exaggerations or some were pretty close to the truth.

There are definitely a lot of possibilities for continuing this storyline.


It’s funny I liked the Ravenhearst story but was never gaga over it but after this game I cannot wait to see what’s next. I hope we see something more from those sick and depraved Big Fish minds.

I really don't want to see the twins become detectives, because there are already so many games out about a teenage girl detective who is constantly trying to defeat her evil grandfather/father/uncle/stepdad that not only is it repatative but also really bad 99% of the time, 2. You wanted to know why Abigail is such a b**** in 13th skull we learn that she was the daughter of captin crown and had a very depressing childhood due to his absence and as we know from escape if you have a depressing childhood your a bad guy! 3.I heard a rumor/announcement that this is the end of the ravenhearst manor but not the storyline, And that next game is dire grove 2 so perhaps we shall face off with Charles' father and teh banshee (there not the same banshees are all females)
Also I really want to see Dr.Lanswills side I mean he was protruded as a failure (he couldn't keep track of a kid who was sedated, bound to a bed and locked in a high tech box)

 
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Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by AndrewB179 on May 25, 12 6:15 AM
For some strange reason, I can't seem to access the last page of this thread - it keeps sending me back to the main EfR forum page.

Also, any word on when "The Official Mystery Case Files 2012 Speculation Thread" will be starting? Or has it, already, somewhere?

 

Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by wangxiangpk on Jun 2, 12 6:52 PM

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Re:The Official Mystery Case Files 2011 Speculation Thread

[Post New]by WickedlyBookish on Jun 2, 12 9:57 PM
I would really love to see a 2012 Speculation Thread put up soon! I'm dying for another MCF game!

 
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[Post New]by brandy914 on Jun 10, 12 5:29 PM
WickedlyBookish wrote:I would really love to see a 2012 Speculation Thread put up soon! I'm dying for another MCF game!



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