jakeybubby
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by jakeybubby on Feb 2, 16 1:38 PM
Thank you very much for your quick response Rahia. I kind of understand what you are saying. I just do not remember having to do an update for the events. We went from Fall/ Halloween event right into Christmas within a short span of time I think. Do not remember having an update though. Ahh ding ding ding just went off in my head. We had Christmas last year so it was already there.

 
Rahia
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by Rahia on Feb 2, 16 1:44 PM
Both of you are very welcome! I was hoping I was making sense.

jakeybubby, they did do a small update before Christmas, introducing the Christmas room and new achievements. They usually (at least that I have noticed) come out a week or two before the event starts. Yes, most of the Christmas event stuff was already programmed in so they didn't have to do much. I'm guessing it will be the same for Spring. A small update that includes a few new achievements along with the bare minimum for content. I would much prefer content but I do like getting more than 3-4 things dropping from the HOS.

 
kingratso
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by kingratso on Feb 2, 16 4:22 PM
Don't know how they determine drop rates. Could be programmed in as percentages with a small random factor, could populate a table or array that is called when it's time to give the goodies. If I populate an array with 20 x shards, 20 x fifteen coins items and one each of 3-4 inventory objects and allow random selection of one item in the array, what do you think the odds are of getting one of the 40 of 44 items vs 4 of 44? Not saying this is how they do it, just trying to give you an idea of a possible way. If they're compiling a program (making it an executable) then they'd have to do an update to replace the existing one. If the program is simply calling objects from a separate database, they can just tweak the database without "updating".

Hope this clears up some of the confusion (I'm confused enough for all of us).

Ratso

 
susiewastaken
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by susiewastaken on Feb 2, 16 4:28 PM
NoFishToday wrote:
JohnTonkin wrote:Had a thought that wouldn't require a full update. The probabilities for getting coins, shards, or the various objects are probably in a table. Could the probabilities for coins and shards be reduced and the hos objects increased correspondingly? Right now it seems like coins 65%, shards 15%, HOS objects 20%. Could the probabilities be changed to 10% coins, 5% shards, and 85% objects? This would rectify most of the problems.

Could BFG suggest this to the developers? Wouldn't require major development, just the application of a hex editor.



Not being technically inclined, I refer to it as "tweaking the faucet". And you are absolutely correct. This could be done in a heartbeat. No update required.


Hope these new ideas are catching devs' attention.

 
Bedazzles
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by Bedazzles on Feb 2, 16 4:51 PM
susiewastaken wrote:
NoFishToday wrote:
JohnTonkin wrote:Had a thought that wouldn't require a full update. The probabilities for getting coins, shards, or the various objects are probably in a table. Could the probabilities for coins and shards be reduced and the hos objects increased correspondingly? Right now it seems like coins 65%, shards 15%, HOS objects 20%. Could the probabilities be changed to 10% coins, 5% shards, and 85% objects? This would rectify most of the problems.

Could BFG suggest this to the developers? Wouldn't require major development, just the application of a hex editor.



Not being technically inclined, I refer to it as "tweaking the faucet". And you are absolutely correct. This could be done in a heartbeat. No update required.


Hope these new ideas are catching devs' attention.


The easiest thing to do is just give back the random inventory item after completing every HOS...they already have the code for that and we have been using it for over 2 years until this update...no tweaking or new code needed...obviously they could just put it back and and replace this nightmare update to the HOS item drop...they might need to do an "update" for it be activated again within our games...but that would be pretty simple as far as I can tell.

 
General_hobojoe
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by General_hobojoe on Feb 2, 16 4:51 PM
Yea....like tell this"1" to be cool to that "0"......and go have a couple of drinks......then tell the rest of the "1's" to chill out with the rest of the "0's"......and drop the items again.....RIGHT!?.........I get it now......: ) **D@NgeR** out

 

Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by frequentfrog on Feb 2, 16 6:13 PM
While I'd love to see the return of the old drop-rate I don't think we'd see it soon. Even if the devs decide to put it back up, there's going to be a lot of water under the bridge before we'll actually see it back in the game. I'm sure there will be a few hierarchial or strategic management ladders these decisions will have to cross, that's going to take a while too.

And the entire mix will have to be tweaked. At first I thought the decision to diminish the drop-rate was taken without thinking through the consequences. Now that I've played the game a few times since the update, I think I've seen several subtle changes that were meant to lighten the negative impact of the lower drop-rate. (Iron chests that the pets bring now have pet medallions since we no longer can spare the inventory to do daily quests. Daily quests seem to have better items and generally seems to ask less to do zoom zones. Trina doesn't appear to ask to do zoom zones quite as often. At first the number of zoom zones and the number of scenes she'd ask for rose the same way. Now, in my game, she's asking for 43 scenes, but has only once asked for 20 zoom zones. The drop-rate increases when you play again shortly after a previous round.)

I freely admit I may be imagining all those tweaks but if I'm not, all those things will have to be retweaked when the drop-rate changes, so that's going to take time as well.

 
General_hobojoe
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by General_hobojoe on Feb 2, 16 6:33 PM
Hate to be the bearer of ilk.....as to the Trina.....I have done 5 in a row....all were 50 HOS with 20 ZZ's......5 in a row............and the DQ's have always been the same requests within them.......the list is in the Helpful Links Thread.....and took over a year to compile the information.........however the first part of your post is solid......the extra medallions have a niche in the game with falling from the pets... cheers **D**

 
moonfell
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by moonfell on Feb 2, 16 6:51 PM
TwoTonFury wrote:OK- I must be one of the lucky ones because the coins and shards aren't dropping any more frequent than the regular HOS items. But, I have noticed that the pink gift boxes are dropping more.

I have completed enough of the "special" requests to get all of my new pets and the food they eat is also dropping from the HOS. I have gotten "blue" chests from them with about 10-12 items in each--mostly airship items, diamonds, coins and pet medallions.

After reaching level 69 and getting all the pets, my inventory is about the same as when I started the update and my coins and shards had increased.

I have also noticed that you can sometimes piggy-back the Daily Quests, Trina's Quests and the "Special" Quests so you can do an HOS or ZZ once and it will count on all three. Which makes it nice for the ZZs.

I have not come across any requests for the airship, dice, WOF or feeding pets in the "Special" Quests but I did have one that asked for coins--just can't remember how many--was going too fast.

Yes--I agree that the "Special" Quests are intimidating when they ask for inventory items, especially for those at lower levels and those who don't have a sizeable stash. But a lot of the quests that send you to HOSs will give you the items you will need for a later quest.

So before you all run off to bigger and better things--all I ask is that if you are going to quit--and you have me in your friend's list--at least annotate your intentions on your avatar or delete me so I don't keep gifting you.

It really makes me sad to see so many disgruntled players.

TT

 
kingratso
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by kingratso on Feb 2, 16 8:09 PM
Hobojoe: Don't confuse them with binary! As we used to tell complaining users -that's an id 10 t problem.

Ratso

Edited on 02/02/2016 at 8:10:09 PM PST


 
GrandmaTyra
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by GrandmaTyra on Feb 2, 16 8:50 PM
It's 11:46EST and I just checked and the link for this forum is in helpful links. This morning I found it by going into Welcome to Midnight Castle. I'm just sayin'.

 
Carlauria
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by Carlauria on Feb 2, 16 9:13 PM
Sadly I also agree today I did all the HOS I have open in cloud city which at this moment is 10. I got 9 sets of 15 coins and one item.... How do I gift like that? I intentionally gift 15 people a day but at this rate I'll run out of items .... Why can we not have the option to sell or turn the items into shards? Please turn this back ...

 
kingratso
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by kingratso on Feb 2, 16 9:15 PM
I'm with you Grandma. Couldn't find this thread anywhere in the main forum threads. Only got here by reading one of my posts. Are they trying to hide this thread? Seems pretty sneaky without letting anyone know. And they wonder why people are quitting and ranting.....

Ratso

 
kingratso
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by kingratso on Feb 2, 16 9:20 PM
Hey, Carlauria: Aren't you on my friends list? (Wasting Time). I'm on sabbatical until this mess gets fixed (hopefully), precisely because of what you're experiencing. It's just not worth it to make the rounds and get squat. Hang in there.

Ratso

 
ajtho1
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by ajtho1 on Feb 2, 16 11:00 PM
I came back to check if there was any news and sadly I see I am disappointed. I will not be opening my game until this terrible issue with the inventory item drop rates is fixed.

On the upside, Bryant from Customer Service has been fantastic; very polite and as helpful as he can possibly be, given that my complaint is beyond his control to fix. I also was possibly one of the first to write directly to Elephant Games and did hear from someone very quickly, who indicated that my feedback would be passed directly to the development team.

Here's hoping this is the next thing that the developers work on because otherwise it looks like they'll lose the majority of current players.

 
clickingaway
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by clickingaway on Feb 2, 16 11:04 PM
Why has this thread been buried? The only way I was able to find it was by searching through my posts for another post I'd made earlier here.

This is an active topic and there have been multiple posts made here today so this thread should have appeared on the 1st or 2nd page of the forum but it wasn't and it wasn't even on the 3rd or 4th page.

If they are hiding this thread then I feel that nothing is going to change so I am going to do a couple spins around the castle and waste the diamonds I purchased that I thought I'd be using for the next 6 months and then i'm shutting my games down.

If they restore the game I will come back but if they don't I won't. Now that I won't be scheduling my day around trying to send out gifts 2-3 times a day I will finally be able to get more sleep, since I have been sleep deprived ever since I started playing MC. I'll also have a lot more spending money so maybe I'll go hit the casino once a month and if I do, it will be a real casino where I have a chance to win real money - not Big Fish Casino where broke gambling addicts follow people around and harass and cuss at them if they don't give them virtual chips so they can go bet big to try and win a virtual jackpot! MC - I had deep pockets and spent way more than the average player but I don't like what you are doing to this game so it's time for me to move on.

Edited on 02/02/2016 at 11:36:22 PM PST


 

Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by Cynproc on Feb 3, 16 12:09 AM
MaryM1980 wrote:
I am sending emails to Elephant games to express my displeasure about this new update. If enough people do the same, maybe they will respond.


I sent one a week ago and never heard back anything. They are probably not giving two hoots about it if they are still seeing the $numbers. I have noticed BFG has been putting MC on top of the hidden objects tab now, they are probably trying to get a lot of new players to replace the ones that are walking. Today sadly I gave notice to my friends that I too have had enough, I will check in once in awhile to see if they updated this nonsense but I am not holding my breath.

Good by castle, I will miss you!


I emailed Elephant and received this succinct and unenlightening response:
“Thanks for the feedback, it will be passed to the Midnight Castle developers team.
Regards,
Olga Kokoulina
Elephant Games"

Not holding my breath either.

Cyn

 
ajtho1
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by ajtho1 on Feb 3, 16 3:18 AM
clickingaway wrote:Why has this thread been buried? The only way I was able to find it was by searching through my posts for another post I'd made earlier here.

This is an active topic and there have been multiple posts made here today so this thread should have appeared on the 1st or 2nd page of the forum but it wasn't and it wasn't even on the 3rd or 4th page.

If they are hiding this thread then I feel that nothing is going to change so I am going to do a couple spins around the castle and waste the diamonds I purchased that I thought I'd be using for the next 6 months and then i'm shutting my games down.

If they restore the game I will come back but if they don't I won't. Now that I won't be scheduling my day around trying to send out gifts 2-3 times a day I will finally be able to get more sleep, since I have been sleep deprived ever since I started playing MC. I'll also have a lot more spending money so maybe I'll go hit the casino once a month and if I do, it will be a real casino where I have a chance to win real money - not Big Fish Casino where broke gambling addicts follow people around and harass and cuss at them if they don't give them virtual chips so they can go bet big to try and win a virtual jackpot! MC - I had deep pockets and spent way more than the average player but I don't like what you are doing to this game so it's time for me to move on.


The thread isn't being hidden; when I posted it was on the 1st page. The mods have also stated categorically that they are not trying to hide this thread, and indeed have actively encouraged people to post their thoughts on the update here rather than anywhere else.

I think we need to stick to topic here or the thread will get locked.

 
janwinley
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Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by janwinley on Feb 3, 16 3:37 AM
I too feel as though everything that has been said is being completely ignored. If they are relying on new players to replace those of us that are leaving then they will have a long wait as the game can be boring at the best of times but with these changes it will be even more boring. Who wants shards???!!! What can you do with them other than furnish a room (yawn). They are a waste of time. Even doing the daily Quest is impossible when you try to find what is needed you end up either getting a shard or an extra 15 coins. I think I am going to forget MC and look for another HOS game...anyone any idea which to change to?

 

Re:ATTENTION DEVS... Concerning Up-Date 1/20/2016

[Post New]by ReallyHelpless on Feb 3, 16 6:38 AM
ReallyHelpless wrote:Hi Debs (dwilson11),

That's a really great idea for instant revenue! (See Post now back on page 18!) If the devs were thinking outside the box, they'd go for it in an instant. Just give a little to get a windfall. Sadly, there's one thing wrong with it, like most of the others in this thread -- it's a good idea Sadly, good ideas don't seem very popular with the powers that be.

I was told by a Mod that "one of the reasons behind this update was that the developers wanted to increase the chances of players being able to find magic shards." But this doesn't make sense because you could always disenchant inventory items for shards. In fact, there's an achievement for that. Now we get shards INSTEAD of inventory items, so players are NOT getting any more shards than before. Plus you lose out on the achievement if you don't convert items into shards. I really don't get this. Really

Actually, there are fewer inventory items now to convert into shards, so players are NOT able to find or make more magic shards, but LESS, so this rationale is totally bogus. Took me a while to figure that one out - slow transmission! Yup, overall less coins, less shards, less inventory items than before. So it seems the only rationale was to slow everyone down, and in the process they made it harder to gift and for most of us to enjoy the game. Unless you believe that less is more, as some seem to do.

Edited on 02/03/2016 at 6:39:57 AM PST


 
 
 
 
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